Tuesday, December 05, 2006

Goodbye Johnny!



John Bolton has resigned and I couldn't be happier. The agent of anti-diplomacy is gone.

Dear Mr. Bolton

Please return to Maryland and eat dog poo.

Sincerely

D.B. Shobrawy

Everyone say it loud, say it proud.

What do we want?

DIALOGUE!

When do we want it?

NOW!

WE WANT DIALOGUE. WE WANT DIALOGUE.

15 Comments:

At 8:33 PM, Anonymous izzi said...

Finally!

 
At 7:21 AM, Blogger Rhino-itall said...

Yeah because dialogue has accomplished so much at the U.N.....?

So you think we should do a lot more talking? The U.N. is an anti- American, anti-Israel organization. It is a corrupt and disgusting organization and the last thing we need is to appease them, but i guess you think it's ok that kofi annan was doing business with saddam, and has done NOTHING about the genocide in darfur, and has sent his "troops" to rape and murder innocent people etc..

DIALOGE, it hasn't worked so far, so lets keep doing it. That's a good idea if you don't give a shit.

 
At 9:25 AM, Blogger D.B. Shobrawy said...

Lol Rhino you are the best I mean that. I in no way believe the U.N. is anti-American and anti-Israel. I believe the U.N. is fair and the President knows that very well. However The U.S. and Israel, I am sad to say, plays alot of dirty politics with the U.N.

If you read the vote counts of propositions that are presented in the U.N. you will see that in regards to propositions which challenge Israeli war crimes or unethical treatment of Palestinians, the U.S. and Israel are the only two countries who vote on the same side . The media is very good at bashing the U.N. for that reason.

If not agreeing with the U.S. on every topic is anti-American then go ahead and call them anti-american but i think its twisted logic. Same goes for Israel, its hard to defend a country who breaks international laws created to defend ethnic groups from governmental bullying, laws created in the 50s in light of the holocaust...now thats irony!

Also you could find the U.S. guilty of anything and everything you could find the U.N. guilty of so lets not finger point. A matter of fact lets see what the U.N. and U.S. have in common....

Corruption--Check
Doing business with Saddam--Check
Ignoring Genocide in Darfur--Check

Troops who rape and murder innocent people, well i wouldnt dare to make generalizations about our troops like that but in just the last two years we have had U.S. soldiers arrested and found guilty for murder as well as rape in Iraq.

As far as dialogue is concerned...come on, would it hurt to talk to our enemies before we bombard them, at least double check! The political landscape has changed, maybe its because the Dems won the house and senate, i dont know. Either way the country wants dialogue, the polls show it, the voting show it. So why not, have we even tried it, what makes you so sure its not a viable option? I'm sure you could easily plead your case but just look at it like this.
War is a last result, we do it not simply out of defense but for the greater good of the world so before we send our young men and women to risk their lives, dont we owe it to them to do everything we can to avoid war?

 
At 9:55 AM, Blogger Rhino-itall said...

d.b. i couldn't disagree more.

First of all, you say "As far as dialogue is concerned...come on, would it hurt to talk to our enemies before we bombard them, at least double check!"

Well what were we doing BEFORE Bolton? You act like he's been there forever. Do you really think we should be talking to Iran, and Syria? Do you actually think they will be honest and play nice? I know you're not that stupid.

Also you say "I believe the U.N. is fair and the President knows that very well." I can't even believe you said that. I'm very disappointed, i thought you were smarter, and less biased than that.

And finally, you say "The media is very good at bashing the U.N. for that reason."

Holy shit man! the main stream media are fucking whores for the U.N.

We obviously disagree on the Israeli/Palestinian situation, but i think your bias is blinding you to the facts. It's NOT hard to defend Israel, and in fact i find it very telling that you don't even mention the NON action the U.N. has taken where there is actual genocide going on, but you mention Israel who is defending herself from attacks by the palestinian people.
Russia won't go along with sanctions against Iran because they're SELLING THEM THE NUCLEAR TECHNOLOGY
Syria IS ON THE HUMAN RIGHTS COUNCIL
Kofi Annan SECRETARY GENERAL OF THE U.N. was implicated in bribery scandals in the Iraqi Oil for food program WHICH WAS A U.N. PROGRAM!

Please don't try to compare the U.N. to the U.S. you just make yourself seem ignorant. We (U.S.) are not perfect, we have problems, we have had some bad situations (abu ghraib) but we have dealt with them fairly. we prosecuted the offenders etc. the U.N. is a joke.

 
At 9:59 AM, Blogger Rhino-itall said...

Kojo Annan, the Secretary General’s son, had for years been getting kickbacks from companies which received illegal funds from the Oil for Food Program. The kickbacks only stopped when the scandal became public.

The UN held its international conference on AIDS in Thailand. This is very ironic, since trading in illicit sex is a major part of the economy of Thailand.

Another irony was when the UN removed the US from the Human Rights Commission, allegedly because our nation mistreats blacks. Our seat on that Commission was given to the Sudan, which is probably the worst human rights offender of any nation. The Sudan, a Muslim nation, sells Christians into slavery. Government soldiers are allowed to rape and torture Christians in the Sudan simply because they are Christians.

Security Council members France, Germany and Russia blocked resolution after resolution that would have allowed the UN to deal with Saddam Hussein before he had the time to hide or destroy his weapons of mass destruction. Why would they do such a thing? For two reasons. First, because these nations were making billions by selling WMD’s and materials to make them to Saddam. Second, because Saddam paid millions of dollars stolen from the Oil for Food Program (which was administered by the UN) to officials of those nations to influence their votes

 
At 10:01 AM, Blogger Rhino-itall said...

UN ambulances have been used by Palestinian terrorists to transport gunmen and weapons for raids against Israel. This has been reported for some time, but last May videotape was taken clearly showing Palestinian terrorists piling into a UN ambulance to escape after murdering Israelis. At first the UN denied this, but after the video was aired, they claimed the ambulance drivers were forced to help the terrorists. No explanation was given for why the incident was not reported until after the video was broadcast.

But of course the U.N. is fair and the president knows it.......

 
At 10:23 AM, Blogger D.B. Shobrawy said...

I think its hilarious that Conservatives think the media is liberal and Liberals think the media is conservative.

YES! I do think we should talk to bashar al assad and AJ, why the hell not!?

As far as the Israel/Palestine conflict goes, to say I have a bias is nutty. I keep it factual over here on WOM. You know that.

And uhhh how does a country like Israel defend itself from a country it illegally occupies? Seriously who's biased now?

But seriously all other issues aside. Just know this. Every single year the international community holds a consensus on how to resolve the Israel-Palestine conflict: a two-state settlement based on full Israeli withdrawal from the West Bank and Gaza and full recognition of israel within its pre-June 1967 borders. Every year the U.N. general assembly reaffirms this formula and votes on the resolution. Voting has gone like this.

1989-Passed 151 to 3- The only dissenting vote aside from the U.S. and Israel. The island state of Dominica

the same happend for the next 15 years then...

2004-Passed 160 to 6- The only dissenting votes aside from the U.S. and Israel. Micronesia, the Marshall Islands, Palau and Uganda.

So let me ask this if the U.S. respected the U.N. the way the rest of the world does and acknowledged their validity would they be expected to abide by those resolutions? Yes they would. It is for that reason alone that the U.S. does not respect the U.N. or Amnesty International or Human Rights Watch or B'Tselem or the Public Committee Against Torture in Israel or Physicians for Human Rights-Israel or any single group which dares to criticize Israel..

Its not irnony its truth.

Anyways, Me and You need to have a DIALOGUE before you bomb my house, email me and we will chit chat.

 
At 10:57 AM, Blogger Arima said...

he he

 
At 11:01 AM, Blogger Rhino-itall said...

Why the hell not? What should we talk to them about? How they continually call us the "great satan"?

Who's biased now? Well, why do you say "illegally occupies"? That's not the way i see it, and besides that, the palestinians are terrorists who continually attack Israel.

db, i could go on for days with examples of anti Israel resolutions from the U.N. and the lack of ANY RESOLUTIONS AGAINST PALESTINE AND ARAFAT EVER, but i don't think it would matter.

Of course there are resolutions that want Israel to give up land, but do we really think it would stop there? Do you think that would mean there would be peace? We've seen how the palestinians react when the Israeli's GIVE them something, they act like they TOOK IT. Well they didn't take it, and they are only emboldened when Israel shows any weakness at all.

I don't know how to solve the problems there, but i know how to NOT solve them, and that is to continue doing what they're doing now. The U.N. could help, but they hate Israel, and they don't care about the Palestinians either or else they would have pressured them into taking the offer of statehood that was on the table. It serves the rest of the Arab world to keep the palestinians down, and that's why they stay there.

I will not bomb your house, i am still a big fan, and i DO think you are fair over here. I just think you're wrong on this one.

 
At 11:03 AM, Blogger Rhino-itall said...

aren't you glad i'm back???

 
At 11:07 AM, Blogger D.B. Shobrawy said...

Bro I'm so glad you are back seriously! I swear you got arrested or something. Anyways hurry up and E-mail me I have something for you.

 
At 11:25 AM, Blogger Rhino-itall said...

d.b. i didn't get arrested, i've been really busy. I can't email you from here because all of my email is monitored because of the industry that i'm in. My personal email is rhino_itall@yahoo.com, i'll try to check it tonight.

 
At 6:31 PM, Blogger The Raccoon said...

DBS -


Oh, man... the UN is basically a bunch of tin-pot dictators, terrorist-supporters, terrorist states and their corrupt cronies.

Just check this site out. It tells a lot of interesting things about the corrupt nest of back-stabing, mass-murdering, anti-semitic, terrorist-dominated psychopaths that is the UN.

League of Nations was just worthless... the UN is a blessing to every scum tyrant of the 20th century. If the UN existed in the 30s, most of us would be dead and the rest would be speaking German.

And Bolton was one of the very few humans with any self-respect, honor, dignity and sanity to ever grace the fetid monstrousity of the UN with his presence.

Just follow the linky, mate...

 
At 7:27 PM, Blogger D.B. Shobrawy said...

"the UN is basically a bunch of tin-pot dictators, terrorist-supporters, terrorist states and their corrupt cronies."

hehehehehe. I love it.

 
At 11:32 AM, Blogger Egypeter said...

Well, I agree with most of the above. I think the U.N. is pretty much good for nothing. Well, unless you're Chavez, Ahmidinutjob or a host of Arab despots who are given a platform to spread their propoganda. You remember that asshole Chavez's speech?? WTF!

And the depth of American hatred that floats around the UN, instigated by its Secretary General, is also pretty unbearable. It really really pisses me off.

And then you stick Iran on its Nuclear Disarmament Committee and Saudi Arabis on the Human Rights Council and there ya have it, the "United Nations." As far as I'm concerned, the UN is a joke.

Now, should it be and could it be effective? Yes, I believe it should be effective but the whole system needs to be badly reformed. And Michael Bolton was doing an excellent job. We finally had someone there who was advancing America's interests and not the world's despots. That's a loss for America.

 

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