Iraqi Kids Get Their Ass Beat!
I know I've been a little YouTube happy lately but I cant help it, I keep unearthing good stuff like this jewel of a clip.
The video shows some British troops in Iraq beating the crap out of some kids after the kids threw rocks at them. It looks terrible but let me point out some things before you go nuts and write your Congressman.
1. Soldiers carry guns.
2. Soldiers kill people for a living.
3. Soldiers witness a lot of mind altering events like bodies blowing up and people getting shot in the face, its not like the movies, seeing that stuff will change you forever.
but most importantly
4. Soldiers kill people for a living!
So what would make a 12 year old brave enough to throw rocks at these lean mean killing machines? Drugs maybe? I've heard a lot of people say, "they don't know any better", don't give me that crap, those kids know exactly what they're doing, in fact they know very well the nature of these soldiers. They throw stones because, 'there's no way the kind hearted British/American soldiers would kill me!' Would these same kids have dared to throw stones at Saddam's Republican Guard? No way because Saddam struck the fear of God into their hearts! If Al-Qaeda were patrolling our streets would you let your kids play in the streets and throw stones at them? If you were irresponsible enough to let your kids do something so foolish, do you think our enemies would hesitate to kill them!? Yea these Soldiers beat these kids up, excessively even but do you think they treated them different then anyone in their neighborhood would treat some punk kids?
posted by D.B. Shobrawy @ 12:30 AM
12 whispers of madness
12 Comments:
These days we can't seem to separate religion from social actions. Boys (or girls for that matter) that throw rocks at anyone should be punished. In the USA or Iraq no matter where! A good spanking would serve well in this instant. My only problem is that I wish they had been spanked out where everyone can see what happened. Those boys should be ashamed that they acted like small children and were punished like small children. . But instead they can make up any story they want and come out as some kind of heroes to their friends. And so the rock throwing or worse will go on.
the guy talking on camera was quite disturbing, but the beat down wasn't really that bad. I've been beat down worse than that in bar fights.
I remember once my brother and i were throwing snow balls at cars and my brother nailed a guy in the face and the guy caught him and kicked his ass. We were about 12 or 13 years old. we didn't even tell our parents because we would have gotten another smack down for throwing the snowballs.
Tough times over there, but as you pointed out, they were lucky that the brits didn't just shoot them.
Pete I would actually bet those soldiers would have problems with those kids again. They probably walked out of there like "wow we got off easy"
DB, you're probably right, IF they were just allowed to leave. The smart thing to do would be to put them in jail for a little while.
Today's rock thrower is tommorrows homicide bomber.
Personally i would put them in jail and interrogate them for a little while. You never know what these kids might tell you.
Honestly I feel these kids are just punk kids doing what punk kids do, my reaction was frustration based on the fact that friends and aquantences were SO utterly horrified by the beating. I would bet that these are actually pretty average kids, I'm not too sure if they are potential killers but they are certainly aware of western rules of engagement.
I got my butt beat for throwing rocks and hitting another kid in the head when I was about 7! I also had to stay in my room for a week and not read, Boo hoo. I had to watch my friends playing from my bedroom window. I am such a vitim!
Victim, I meant victim! Poor me!
Are you kidding me? Are you all actually unaffected, apathetic about kids getting beaten up? They throw rocks, yes, bad bad boys. But to get beaten up by soldiers? Hell, I wouldn't take that abuse from my own father,let alone a random soldier.
Anon,
think about the situation. It's a war zone, and people are being killed every day. Rocks being thrown can be used as a decoy or next time it could be a hand grenade. What should the soldiers have done? Maybe give them a good talking to? maybe sent them to their room with no dessert?
You wouldn't take that abuse from your own father? well that's not really up to you is it? It's kind of up to your father. I'm assuming that you grew up here in the U.S. and you had/have a nice family life with parents who don't beat your ass, but that's not everyones reality.
As an adult myself, in the U.S. i wouldn't beat down a kid for throwing a rock at me, but that's because i have other ways to discipline him, like going to the police, or his parents etc. In Iraq the options are
1. ignore it and hope they stop(yeah right)
2. beat their asses
3. kill them.
I think they got off easy.
Rhino,
How about these other options:
a) Yell at them and shoo them away. They are just harmless little fuckers.
b) Threaten them. Grab them, simulate the kind of abuse that befell them, then still shoo them away. Instill fear, without actually gang beating them.
c) *Still* shoo the annoying tweens away.
You're right, perhaps later on this might be a decoy. A hand grenade, even. But the chances of that happening with these kids are miniscule. Even if it *was* probable, we know better than to punish someone for a potential crime. And if you scare enough shit out of them, they'd never come anywhere near you. ever. again.
They're kids, not Bin Laden.
Note: I was born and raised in the middle-east. I don't have to be living in the west to understand that child-beating is lower human nature.
Hell, I wouldn't take that abuse from my own father,let alone a random soldier.
What would your father have done if you threw rocks (and molotov cocktails) at him, when you were a kid?
As far as "taking it", you take what the hell you get when you attack somebody. It's not a game.
I am scratching my head in bewilderment. Really.
Either I'm an idealist that's gonna get screwed in later on in my life, or you guys are the devil incarnate.
I'm talking to myself here, trying to understand and grasp your opinions, Rhino and Craig. Come on!! KIDS. You can't gang beat KIDS. Isn't that the whole point of childhood? Children don't know better? They have yet to adopt the social contract that we adults do. And hence discipline, not rifle beating, is required to train them to abide by the rules..and not breach the social, or I guess, war zone, contract.
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