Friday, September 01, 2006

Carmen is SUPER Pissed

Carmen is SUPER pissed regarding comments left on her page and she's got some words for the voices of ignorance in a new post. Its a good rant.

Here's an excerpt
Here's one of the things I discerned from the comments: we "Muslims" need to watch ourselves. We need to make sure we don't agitate the poor, scared average American. Watch what you wear, watch how you act, watch what you say. What a load of f*%king bull$hit. Are you Americans so f#*king stupid that you can't distinguish between a "threat" and (for lack of a better word) normality??? What a bunch of backward folk then!

Here's is the whole article and the context of the controversy. To get a full sense of the issue at hand you'll need to read the comments.

As far as my own opinion on the matter, I will unleash them in the comments that will inevitably develop from this post.


At 11:25 AM, Blogger Miss Carnivorous said...

She is so far off, I am sorry but she displays the typical attitude of "Muslims never do anything wrong and it is never their fault and they never have to take personal responsibility for their actions." She also is a dime a dozen and there are millions like her spouting the same ideology. The muslims in this country do not have a platform. They are in no way opressed. If there is bad feelings or fear of them it because of the actions of many Muslims in this country and elsewhere. They need to place the blame where it belongs. If they do not like this country, its peoples or its policies there are many Muslim countries for them to live in. I suggest they throw off their chains of bondage and move to one of them.

At 12:03 PM, Blogger Egyptian magician said...

The fine line between security and civil liberties is just that...fine. I see her beef, as a Muslim, I would do everything in my power to re-gain the trust of Americans, knowing full well that it may impinge on my liberties now, for the sake of muslims in the future retaining their legitmate citizenry.

At 12:53 PM, Blogger D.B. Shobrawy said...

Well I think its hard, if not silly to expect any group of people to bite the bullet for the bennefit of their people in the future. If everyone insures their liberty in the present it will naturally carry over to the future. Miss C ,I totally know where your coming from. There are many muslims who refuse to accept that there are muslims who are terrorists, instead of saying yes there are muslims who are terrorists but I dont believe in their ways. I dont however blame her for her frustration in this post, her response was due to comments from people who were very ignorant in their comments. I dont know if you read them but in a dialouge in which people of all religions are discussing a topic its very exclusionary ignorant and stereotypical to point fingers and say YOU muslims this and YOU muslims that when you might not be aware of others opinions on the matter. To assume all muslims are terrorist sympathizers and to "warn" them on how to act is outrageous and I think warrants Carmens response.

At 8:56 PM, Blogger Miss Carnivorous said...

You know she still has more rights in the US than she would in some Muslim countries. She, to me, is just perpetrating the same old Muslim honor crap. Some infidel insulted us Muslims so now they are all my enemies. Muslims are so sensitive to insults, it drives me nuts. If someone thinks someone they don't even know, in some country far away has been insulted by an infidel they get all bent out of shape. It is what makes it hard for Arabs to get over their history, because they never ever forgive. They also seem to enjoy their victimhood, a lot. They wallow in it and get very offended. It holds Muslims to the primitive eye for an eye behavior. I just don't think it's productive at all. The guy wearing the t-shirt was being offensive but she doesn't get that. Everybody is demanding the right to be as offensive and act as badly as possible but not be called on their behavior. Sounds like they want to be Americans to me.

At 9:03 PM, Blogger Miss Carnivorous said...

Hey Sho, you should link Leilouta!

At 2:04 PM, Blogger Carmen said...

Miss C, you are so far off.

"Muslims never do anything wrong"? Are you kidding me? If you read my blog you'd know that I'm as critical of Muslims as I am of anyone else who spouts bullshit. The point of my rant was that I am not responsible to apologize for the terrorists of the world. No Muslim is. I was fed up with the crap that was showing up on my comments where all Muslims were held accountable for the acts of random individuals.

I absolutely DO have more rights in this country and that's why I choose to be here. I am as American as apple pie and America allows you to critique the shit that is thrown at you. My post wasn't political, it wasn't choosing one way of life over another. In America, I have the fucking right to wear whatever I want. Do not come to me and tell me that the t-shirt was offensive and that I should "get it". I will not "get" ignorance and stupidity. Perhaps that's your job.


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