Friday, July 14, 2006

Poor Lebanon.

I can’t help but feel so terrible for Lebanon and the Lebanese. Here is a country who has been embroiled in conflict since 1860. Since the end of major conflict in 1990, Lebanon has been rebuilt and has stood as an example to its neighbors as a Moderate nation. Beirut has been rebuilt into a jewel of the Middle East even being called the Paris of the Middle East and now its infrastructure is being destroyed, exit roads, bridges, power plants, oil reserves and even the airport.

I have trouble seeing how those kinds of attacks specifically affect Hezbollah, it is the people of Lebanon who will suffer here and despite the circumstances no one sympathizes with Israel, hardly even the United States. George Bush knows not to bite the hand that feeds him and so he has made statements such as, "We (Me and Dick) stand by Israel’s right to defend itself." While at the same time telling the President of Lebanon, "We are trying to compel Israel not to attack infrastructures." Do I really have to tell you who answers to whom, of course not.

What an extremely sad turn of events, my take is that Israel is using the kidnapping as an excuse to attack its neighbors, nothing more, they couldn’t be happier about their soldiers getting kidnapped. Israel would be more than happy to start WW3 as well, its like when your a tiny powerless 10 year old and you pick fights with everyone in your neighborhood because you know your older brother will beat up anyone who messes with you. I can’t tell you how many times I have heard Iran mentioned these last couple days, how is Iran involved, they aren’t of course. Iran supports the countries involved but that is no surprise. Another report I heard was that the "drone" missile Hezbollah used to attack the war ship bombing Lebanon was built in Iran. Yea, and the M-16s used by the Lebanese army were sold to them by the U.S., its a non issue but of course it does its job as a buzz word that gets everyone to side against Iran. Watch what is happening, observe how often Iran comes up in the news, they are the new "evil" just as Iraq has been our adversary for the last 15 years.

Funny Note: I have a Palestinian friend who went to Lebanon for the summer because "Palestine is too dangerous". Poor bastard, now hes stuck there with no way of getting out. His MySpace message says, "You will never know what its like to wake up to explosions and the concussion of bombs"


At 12:20 PM, Blogger shlemazl said...

1. "Israel...they couldn’t be happier about their soldiers getting kidnapped. Israel would be more than happy to start WW3 as well"

This does not deserve a response.

2. " one sympathizes with Israel"

Noone, but Canada, Australia, Germany and of cause the USA. And all people with any common sense, who appreciate who started this and that IT IS NOT O'K to attack Israel, kill and capture it's citizens without slightest provocation.

Have a look at this or check out Lebanese blogs.

3. "Another report I heard was that the "drone" missile Hezbollah used to attack the war ship bombing Lebanon was built in Iran. Yea, and the M-16s used by the Lebanese army were sold to them by the U.S., its a non issue".

The difference is that Hezbollah is a fascist terrorist organization. Oh, and it has also been reported that 100 Iranian soldiers are assisting Hezbollah with the effort, including missile firing.

At 1:10 PM, Blogger D.B. Shobrawy said...

As far is no one supporting Israel, the facts are there, no one is going to go as far as siding with the Arab nations but Condemning Israels disporportionate attack including the targeting of civilians and national infrastructure, is a lack of support as clearly as I can see it and all the nations you have named (who supposedly support Israel in this situation)have done so. I would agree that kidnapping citizens would be cause for a full scale disporportionate attack. However kidnapping soldiers during war time is quite a differnt story. As far is the "Iran" scapegoating, I dont buy it, im sorry but its hot air.

At 3:36 PM, Blogger shlemazl said...

"Israel has the right to defend itself. I think Israel's response under the circumstances has been reserved. I think it's tremendously disappointing that these attacks come in areas that Israel voluntarily evacuated. So I think the onus to end this escalation is on the other side. And I would urge them to return the prisoners." - Stephen Harper, Prime Minister of Canada.

The same sentiments have been expressed by Tony Blair of the UK, John Howard of Australia, Angela Merkel of Germany and, albeit with a lesser degree of clarity, by George Bush.

If you think this qualifies as "Condemning Israels disporportionate attack" you are very wrong. Only France and Russia did that, but we know what to expect of them.


"I would agree that kidnapping citizens would be cause for a full scale disporportionate attack. However kidnapping soldiers during war time is quite a differnt story."

Israeli soldiers are Israeli citizens. There was no war until Hezbollah committed an act of war.

At 3:57 PM, Blogger D.B. Shobrawy said...

Shlemazl, I respect your right to disagree but if you choose to disreguard the opinions of Nations who you expect not to agree with you then you will be left alone with the usual YES men. So if France, Russia, the U.N. and anyone else who doesnt have a financial interest in Israel disagrees with their actions maybe that says something unique.

At 5:48 PM, Blogger shlemazl said...

Actually it is you appears to totally disregard Canada et al in your post and subsequent comments.

I acknowledge and ignore Russia. Putin's Russia killed hundreds of thousands of people in Chechnya, so for it to lecture Israel is ridiculous.

France stated that they would respond with a nuclear bomb to a terror attack against France (President Chirac, about 6 months ago). With all due respect to France, the options selected by Israel is a much milder one. Again, France does not appears to be in a position to lecture Israel.

UN is dominated by Muslim regimes.

All in all, the nations that matter gave Israel unreserved support.

At 6:06 PM, Blogger D.B. Shobrawy said...

Riiiiight Canada.

"Muslim regimes control the U.N"
Riiiiiiiight, Can you hear the people laughing... hold on wait, yes there it is.

Shlemazl, lets not fight, come on gimmie a hug.

At 6:30 PM, Blogger D.B. Shobrawy said...

By the way, just for everyones knowledge, the only Permanent members of the U.N. Security Council are, The U.S., U.K. Russia, France and China. I think if "Muslim regimes" did control the U.N., Israel would be a smoldering crater by now, dont you think?

At 6:32 PM, Blogger shlemazl said...

I would give you a hug with great pleasure as long as you are a pretty girl.

Suggest you should use quotation marks when you are actually quoting someone as opposed to paraphrasing.

At 6:34 PM, Blogger shlemazl said...

And how many Security Council resolutions are you aware of?

Compare that with various UN committees (e.g. Human Rights) and General Assembly resolutions... You'd think that Israel is the only counry there is to discuss.

At 6:35 PM, Blogger shlemazl said...

I meant "Security Council Resolutions..." against Israel

At 6:39 PM, Blogger D.B. Shobrawy said...

No I'm not a pretty girl, I'm a sexy man.

At 8:41 PM, Blogger shlemazl said...

Well, I can blow you a kiss from the distance. That's as far as I'll go, because I am married. Also you mother wouldn't approve if we were to have a proper relationship, because I am Jewish.

At 12:21 AM, Blogger D.B. Shobrawy said...

Dude, lets not go to far, its just a joke, jeez. This guy getting all serious with the wife and hes jewish and what not.

At 7:22 AM, Blogger Osaid Rasheed said...

Shobrawy :
Do you think Israel started this mess or Hizbollah ?

At 8:28 AM, Blogger shlemazl said...

How can you joke about LOVE? Oh, man I got my hopes up. What about that hug you promised?

At 12:16 PM, Blogger D.B. Shobrawy said...

Osaid, I think it’s a tough situation to dissect; to say Hezbollah started it or Israel did is oversimplifying the situation. I can understand all sides to an extent. For Hezbollah their war with Israel is ongoing, the kidnapping of the soldiers is just another chapter. After all if the war on terror is indefinite then so is the war on the other side of the fence.

Of course Israel has too much pride to let these bastards, Hezbollah, try anything with them, they have been bitter about the difficulty they gave them in Lebanon in the late 80s. Is carpet bombing a whole country a reasonable response, absolutely not. The extent Israel has gone to nearly wipe Lebanon off the map is so sad and simply unfair. It was almost believable when they bombed the south which is Hezbollah’s strong hold, but when they decimated Beirut and obliterated the north, I have to wonder, what’s the real intention here; does it really have anything to do with Hezbollah? No. I think its the pure fact that Israel has contempt for all its Arab Neighbors. Ehud Olmert comes from the teaching that the Jews own everything between the Nile and the Tigris (or Euphrates whatever) which sheds a little light on his attitude towards the people in those countries in between.

So who started it, I don’t know if we can really say, for Hezbollah, Israel started it by oppressing the Palestinians. Even though the majority of Lebanese hate Hezbollah and wish Syria would stop aiding their cause. For Israel, Hezbollah started it in the 80s and rekindled it last week. They both suck, but right now I have a lot of trouble understanding the Israeli plight Vs. the Lebanese because that’s where they brought it, not to Hezbollah, but to the Lebanese people.

At 6:11 PM, Blogger shlemazl said...

If Israel wanted to carpet bomb Lebanon, there would be no Lebanese left today. Israel has the capability. It has targeted communications so that Hezbollah can't bring in more missiles. It has targeted radars so that Lebanese cannot attack Israeli ships with radar-guided missiles. It has targeted Hezbollah. Sadly Hezbollah hides behind civilians in civilian areas. I hope you can appreciate that it is not a simple task.


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